So i'm going for the Survivor title... - Guild Wars Forums

Backstab · Mar 27, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Ive been trying this title and this is the best ive gotten so far.
I have a W/Mo13 with 70k xp at the moment, which is pretty sad. I am at Seitung Harbor and im stuck. No one will help me out, because I am to scared to fight.

So, i just need some tips on how to get to HzH, when there i plan to get a run to Ludagris and do some FFF

Taala · Mar 27, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Sometimes I think "Coward" would have been more suitable for the title name.

[email protected] · Mar 27, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taala

Sometimes I think "Coward" would have been more suitable for the title name.

LMFAO!!!

I have a mesmer who already has survivor but i want max

A warrior for survivor title imo is very hard but not impossible at least until lvl 20 where you get the survivor one but after that maybe areas start to be a little harder for you and then yes you become a coward lol.

GL mate

Backstab · Mar 27, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Soo i should not do FFF and just normally train?
many people have said FFF is the only way

once again i need tips im new at this

Taki · Mar 27, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Coward definately would be a more fitting title for many of the survivor-goers but it wouldn't do justice to the rest of the player base who chose to do it sans lameness. When was the last time you died in Guildwars pve anyway??

Tip: Heroes and hench are cruise control to your survivor title. Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar on a target from beyond aggro range sends them in to attack for you. While you're sitting back away from the action you won't get any xp from all the mobs they kill though unless you either cast a spell on an enemy/party member or attack with a flatbow/longbow, you brave warrior you

Just make sure you have a running speed buff like sprint, dash, dark escape etc. and a good conection between you and Anet's servers. Lag has killed more would-be survivors than wammos have killed lvl 7 charr.

Sofonisba · Mar 27, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

There are a few interesting guides in the Community Works section of this forum.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=22

**cosyfiep** · Mar 27, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

geez...the only character so far that I have been able to get to the first level of survivor has been my rt/w....my mesmer (level 13) tried and died at the battle of tsumei village, my monk tried and died (120,00 xp) when the rit boss on that little island by where the chest is spirit rifted me for 400points....

but my rt/W was able to get thru it all....seems it was easier for him.....though my suggestions are: henchies, and then kill the yetis and use scrolls....you wont find a group that wants someone who is affraid to die with them so you will need to go it alone....good luck.

(my rit died after 179,000 xp....but still keeps the survivor title up as I am quite proud to have made it that far!)

Stormlord Alex · Mar 27, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

I never found a problem not dying on the starter island as my assassin... I just used the max armour available, did as many quests as I could find and, most importantly, played AGGRESSIVELY. Dead enemies can't kill you, after all.

I got to ~400 000 exp then died 'cuz of vamp daggers.

You just got tomahawked · Mar 27, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Sounds like you've got yourself a problem.

Griff Mon · Mar 27, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

This is almost too funny. Here are some tips for you:

-get a second account and second computer. set up 1v1 against yourself in the guild hall. let the other char die while you get free experience. It should only take you a few weeks that way. It is the true cowards way to get the survivor title.

-Or set up a shortcut key to log out. Otherwise you need to go with henchmen only. Learn to log out fast. Don't play when network speed is an issue.

Other than that, actually play-- it is not that hard to make the first level of survivor if you have any experience at all.

Onarik Amrak · Mar 27, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Griff that's retarded advice. You don't get XP in scrimmages.

Besides Survivors shouldn't just sit in the corner and sulk while everyone else is fighting. Just play smart and know when you're beaten.

<-- Legendary Survivor and 3 Protectors. Still haven't died. Almost at 1.8mil xp.

Torikae · Mar 27, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

My only tip: Don't be scared to fight. That shouldn't be what this title's about...
I got level1 survivor with my sin, no problem. No PUGs, no guildies - just henchies. If you're scared about being hit by all the aggro, just target, wait for Lukas to run in and go in behind him. Easy as.
(I didn't go for anything above level1 with my sin - my rit is my survivor character :P)

October Jade · Mar 27, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

This exchange is repugnant to anyone who actually reached LS legitimately. Believe it or not, there are a few of us who worked for the title instead of resorting to this doorman crap or keeping one finger eternally hovered over F12. You can get to the end in 120-ish hours if you just...oh, I don't know...PLAY THE F---IN' GAME.

I didn't play in pugs very often, because they're too unpredictable. However, on the occasions that I did, I pulled more than my share of the weight. For example, I can say with no hesitation that I singlehandedly kept my group from being wiped in the fight against Glint. The same can be said for THK and a multitude of other places, as well.

Look, I'm not here to toot my own horn. It just aggravates me terribly when I read people whining about how hard it is to reach Legendary Survivor. That's the point. It's supposed to be difficult. It took me thirteen attempts before I got there, and when I did it was the greatest moment of my GW career.

Unfortunately, I don't often wear the title in town...I get too many nasty whispers calling me a leecher, deadweight, etc. Thanks for perpetuating the stereotype.

Patchouli Knowledge · Mar 28, 2007, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Buy Protective Spirit, put that on your bar, keep that up on yourself, flag all the henchmen ahead whenever there's any mesmers/necros etc that remove enchantments and have the henchmen kill them first, and then other than that just play normally.

If you only want the first tier of survivor, if you just do everything on the newbie island other than Quimang's Last Stand, Sentimental Treasures and The Captured Son quests, other than the last part of the Zen Daijun mission, the rest is unlikely to mess you up and you should get to the mainland at level 16-17, once there there's enough FedEx quests around Wajjun Bazaar, Bukdek Byway and Kaineng Center to get you to level 20 without fighting anything else.

Grasping Darkness · Mar 28, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

just flag your henchys ahead of you and let them fight for you
be sure not to go running around by yourself with them flagged...did that in echovald forest with my sin at 700k+ exp and ran solo into a group of mantis ><

also if you have a gaming keyboard you can program a hotkey to f12+enter. lol i do FTWuss
almost forgot the most important thing.....DO NOT EVER JOIN A PUG until you are ready to die

Covah · Mar 28, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

If you are too scared to fight when going for survivor what is the point. Try actually playing the game, you are a tank and can take the most dmg. i've gotten Legendary survivor on my warrior, mesmer and am working on a monk. I found warrior to be the easiest. Just do the missions up to Kaineng center (sounds like you started in factions) and then go over to Elona (if you have it) and get heroes then equip them with protection and buffs.

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Mar 28, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Heh, people make it sound as if the Surviver Title was actually difficult. I have a Legendary Survivor which I accquired by normal gameplay - no powerlevelling, running or farming involved - so I know it is not. Granted, it's a Paragon which as a ranged attacker makes things easier, but the basics are the same for Warriors:

Know the game. Do not go into any areas that you haven't been to before with a different character. Aggro carefully. Do not needlessly attack any bosses that you know can kill you with two hits (canthan elementalists anyone?).

Use the monster AI to you advantage, especially the mechanics by which attack priorities are established. Monsters will go first after whoever has the lowest health. So, always be a level or two higher than your party members / allies (as long as you're not 20; a Minion Master works wonders!). Use Survivor's armor, Vigor and Vitae runes, Fortitude Weapon upgrades etc. to boost you health. Don't use major or superiour runes that lower your health. With that, monsters will almost completely ignore you, as long as you're not the only one in range. You will still have to watch out for AoE effects, of course. Also note that monsters will always use Grenths Balance on whichever target has the highest health. Not many mobs use that skill, know which ones that are.

Do not, never, under no circumstances join PUGs. If you don't have a reliable guild/alliance/circle of friends, use heroes and henchmen. Use target calling to send in the henches to aggro for you so you're not the first one the monsters see.

The greatest danger to Survivors however, connection problems, is almost completely out of your hand. If you disconnect in the middle of the fight, you're out of luck (the reconnection feature actually made it harder for Survivors, because your char will be standing around some time, vulnerable). But still, a decent selection of henches / heroes can handle a lot on their own, they will only fail when coordination is required, which brings me back to the "no PUGs" argument...

As a final note, I do accnowledge that a mellee fighter trying to survive in Cantha, where he'll be suspect to a lot of exploding afflicted, is probably the hardest way to do this.

Clerihew · Mar 28, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

Go skill capping. Choose the easiest and keep changing your secondary profession for access to a wide range. Boring but if you are too scared to play it through thenyou can earn a fair amount of xp this way.

Cass · Mar 28, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by October Jade

This exchange is repugnant to anyone who actually reached LS legitimately. Believe it or not, there are a few of us who worked for the title instead of resorting to this doorman crap or keeping one finger eternally hovered over F12. You can get to the end in 120-ish hours if you just...oh, I don't know...PLAY THE F---IN' GAME.

I didn't play in pugs very often, because they're too unpredictable. However, on the occasions that I did, I pulled more than my share of the weight. For example, I can say with no hesitation that I singlehandedly kept my group from being wiped in the fight against Glint. The same can be said for THK and a multitude of other places, as well.

Look, I'm not here to toot my own horn. It just aggravates me terribly when I read people whining about how hard it is to reach Legendary Survivor. That's the point. It's supposed to be difficult. It took me thirteen attempts before I got there, and when I did it was the greatest moment of my GW career.

Unfortunately, I don't often wear the title in town...I get too many nasty whispers calling me a leecher, deadweight, etc. Thanks for perpetuating the stereotype.

Yes, these FFF and scrimmage (if that even works) tips are lame. I think there aren't many people who really respect someone who FFFed a survivor title. I know I don't. But don't expect the title itself to show who actually played it and who didn't. It's the nature of titles that they can be made cheapy... or the 'real way'. Only you and your friends know how you actually got there.

Fame? You could IWAY or hump the 2x fame weekends, etc. Protector of X? You can be run. Drunkard? You could buy/scam the gold. Champion? zergway the double champ weekend. etc etc. Hell there are builds, services and tips out here in this forum to do all these things the 'lame way'.

I'm sorry that you get nasty whispers when showing the title. I have been wearing it permanently on my mes, for months now, and got only one or two somewhat sour reactions... everybody else was positive. Switch to euro districts maybe?

Cebe · Mar 28, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20

A Wammo afraid to aggro things? Now I've seen everything!

Perhaps the OP should consider the fact that by expecting other people to fight for him he is helping all those other people who "power-levelled their way to glory" to cheapen the survivor title.

I am 170,000 XP off Legendary Survivor on a Ranger, as it happens, called Wammo Hunter

I've done some reasonably dangerous things and most of them with hench to try to make a point of actually playing the game. When you get to Indomitable Survivor...it is still not *that* hard to reach max title...but the far easiest way when you have exhausted all the secondary quests is to skill cap...it costs a lot.

One thing I would say if you decide to actually play the game is the one thing I've been sure to keep in the front of my mind throughout my journey which is: know when you're out-matched. Don't wait for half the party to die before you run away. if you think you've aggroed too much you usually have. Step back and try to figure out another way of tackling the problem.

Mar 27, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53	#1
Backstab Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Convicted Sybarites [CS] Profession: R/	So i'm going for the Survivor title... Ive been trying this title and this is the best ive gotten so far. I have a W/Mo13 with 70k xp at the moment, which is pretty sad. I am at Seitung Harbor and im stuck. No one will help me out, because I am to scared to fight. So, i just need some tips on how to get to HzH, when there i plan to get a run to Ludagris and do some FFF

Mar 27, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58	#13
October Jade Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: drifting between Indiana and NorCal	This exchange is repugnant to anyone who actually reached LS legitimately. Believe it or not, there are a few of us who worked for the title instead of resorting to this doorman crap or keeping one finger eternally hovered over F12. You can get to the end in 120-ish hours if you just...oh, I don't know...PLAY THE F---IN' GAME. I didn't play in pugs very often, because they're too unpredictable. However, on the occasions that I did, I pulled more than my share of the weight. For example, I can say with no hesitation that I singlehandedly kept my group from being wiped in the fight against Glint. The same can be said for THK and a multitude of other places, as well. Look, I'm not here to toot my own horn. It just aggravates me terribly when I read people whining about how hard it is to reach Legendary Survivor. That's the point. It's supposed to be difficult. It took me thirteen attempts before I got there, and when I did it was the greatest moment of my GW career. Unfortunately, I don't often wear the title in town...I get too many nasty whispers calling me a leecher, deadweight, etc. Thanks for perpetuating the stereotype. Last edited by October Jade; Mar 28, 2007 at 12:03 AM // 00:03..

Mar 28, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09	#15
Grasping Darkness Banned Join Date: Nov 2005	just flag your henchys ahead of you and let them fight for you be sure not to go running around by yourself with them flagged...did that in echovald forest with my sin at 700k+ exp and ran solo into a group of mantis >< also if you have a gaming keyboard you can program a hotkey to f12+enter. lol i do FTWuss almost forgot the most important thing.....DO NOT EVER JOIN A PUG until you are ready to die Last edited by Grasping Darkness; Mar 28, 2007 at 03:12 AM // 03:12..

Mar 28, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20	#20
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	A Wammo afraid to aggro things? Now I've seen everything! Perhaps the OP should consider the fact that by expecting other people to fight for him he is helping all those other people who "power-levelled their way to glory" to cheapen the survivor title. I am 170,000 XP off Legendary Survivor on a Ranger, as it happens, called Wammo Hunter I've done some reasonably dangerous things and most of them with hench to try to make a point of actually playing the game. When you get to Indomitable Survivor...it is still not that hard to reach max title...but the far easiest way when you have exhausted all the secondary quests is to skill cap...it costs a lot. One thing I would say if you decide to actually play the game is the one thing I've been sure to keep in the front of my mind throughout my journey which is: know when you're out-matched. Don't wait for half the party to die before you run away. if you think you've aggroed too much you usually have. Step back and try to figure out another way of tackling the problem. Last edited by Cebe; Mar 28, 2007 at 09:23 AM // 09:23..

Mar 27, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#2
Taala Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006	Sometimes I think "Coward" would have been more suitable for the title name.

Mar 27, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#4
Backstab Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Convicted Sybarites [CS] Profession: R/	Soo i should not do FFF and just normally train? many people have said FFF is the only way once again i need tips im new at this

Mar 27, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#5
Taki Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Profession: N/Me	Coward definately would be a more fitting title for many of the survivor-goers but it wouldn't do justice to the rest of the player base who chose to do it sans lameness. When was the last time you died in Guildwars pve anyway?? Tip: Heroes and hench are cruise control to your survivor title. Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar on a target from beyond aggro range sends them in to attack for you. While you're sitting back away from the action you won't get any xp from all the mobs they kill though unless you either cast a spell on an enemy/party member or attack with a flatbow/longbow, you brave warrior you Just make sure you have a running speed buff like sprint, dash, dark escape etc. and a good conection between you and Anet's servers. Lag has killed more would-be survivors than wammos have killed lvl 7 charr.

Mar 27, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#6
Sofonisba Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]	There are a few interesting guides in the Community Works section of this forum. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=22

Mar 27, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51	#7
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	geez...the only character so far that I have been able to get to the first level of survivor has been my rt/w....my mesmer (level 13) tried and died at the battle of tsumei village, my monk tried and died (120,00 xp) when the rit boss on that little island by where the chest is spirit rifted me for 400points.... but my rt/W was able to get thru it all....seems it was easier for him.....though my suggestions are: henchies, and then kill the yetis and use scrolls....you wont find a group that wants someone who is affraid to die with them so you will need to go it alone....good luck. (my rit died after 179,000 xp....but still keeps the survivor title up as I am quite proud to have made it that far!)

Mar 27, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57	#8
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	I never found a problem not dying on the starter island as my assassin... I just used the max armour available, did as many quests as I could find and, most importantly, played AGGRESSIVELY. Dead enemies can't kill you, after all. I got to ~400 000 exp then died 'cuz of vamp daggers.

Mar 27, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16	#9
You just got tomahawked Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: H-Town Guild: The Battle Bakery [vPie] Profession: N/	Sounds like you've got yourself a problem.

Mar 27, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#10
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	This is almost too funny. Here are some tips for you: -get a second account and second computer. set up 1v1 against yourself in the guild hall. let the other char die while you get free experience. It should only take you a few weeks that way. It is the true cowards way to get the survivor title. -Or set up a shortcut key to log out. Otherwise you need to go with henchmen only. Learn to log out fast. Don't play when network speed is an issue. Other than that, actually play-- it is not that hard to make the first level of survivor if you have any experience at all.

Mar 27, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#11
Onarik Amrak Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Astral Revenants Profession: P/W	Griff that's retarded advice. You don't get XP in scrimmages. Besides Survivors shouldn't just sit in the corner and sulk while everyone else is fighting. Just play smart and know when you're beaten. <-- Legendary Survivor and 3 Protectors. Still haven't died. Almost at 1.8mil xp.

Mar 27, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#12
Torikae Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Profession: Rt/	My only tip: Don't be scared to fight. That shouldn't be what this title's about... I got level1 survivor with my sin, no problem. No PUGs, no guildies - just henchies. If you're scared about being hit by all the aggro, just target, wait for Lukas to run in and go in behind him. Easy as. (I didn't go for anything above level1 with my sin - my rit is my survivor character :P)

Mar 28, 2007, 02:02 AM // 02:02	#14
Patchouli Knowledge Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2007	Buy Protective Spirit, put that on your bar, keep that up on yourself, flag all the henchmen ahead whenever there's any mesmers/necros etc that remove enchantments and have the henchmen kill them first, and then other than that just play normally. If you only want the first tier of survivor, if you just do everything on the newbie island other than Quimang's Last Stand, Sentimental Treasures and The Captured Son quests, other than the last part of the Zen Daijun mission, the rest is unlikely to mess you up and you should get to the mainland at level 16-17, once there there's enough FedEx quests around Wajjun Bazaar, Bukdek Byway and Kaineng Center to get you to level 20 without fighting anything else.

Mar 28, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15	#16
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	If you are too scared to fight when going for survivor what is the point. Try actually playing the game, you are a tank and can take the most dmg. i've gotten Legendary survivor on my warrior, mesmer and am working on a monk. I found warrior to be the easiest. Just do the missions up to Kaineng center (sounds like you started in factions) and then go over to Elona (if you have it) and get heroes then equip them with protection and buffs.

Mar 28, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26	#17
eightyfour-onesevenfive Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]	Heh, people make it sound as if the Surviver Title was actually difficult. I have a Legendary Survivor which I accquired by normal gameplay - no powerlevelling, running or farming involved - so I know it is not. Granted, it's a Paragon which as a ranged attacker makes things easier, but the basics are the same for Warriors: Know the game. Do not go into any areas that you haven't been to before with a different character. Aggro carefully. Do not needlessly attack any bosses that you know can kill you with two hits (canthan elementalists anyone?). Use the monster AI to you advantage, especially the mechanics by which attack priorities are established. Monsters will go first after whoever has the lowest health. So, always be a level or two higher than your party members / allies (as long as you're not 20; a Minion Master works wonders!). Use Survivor's armor, Vigor and Vitae runes, Fortitude Weapon upgrades etc. to boost you health. Don't use major or superiour runes that lower your health. With that, monsters will almost completely ignore you, as long as you're not the only one in range. You will still have to watch out for AoE effects, of course. Also note that monsters will always use Grenths Balance on whichever target has the highest health. Not many mobs use that skill, know which ones that are. Do not, never, under no circumstances join PUGs. If you don't have a reliable guild/alliance/circle of friends, use heroes and henchmen. Use target calling to send in the henches to aggro for you so you're not the first one the monsters see. The greatest danger to Survivors however, connection problems, is almost completely out of your hand. If you disconnect in the middle of the fight, you're out of luck (the reconnection feature actually made it harder for Survivors, because your char will be standing around some time, vulnerable). But still, a decent selection of henches / heroes can handle a lot on their own, they will only fail when coordination is required, which brings me back to the "no PUGs" argument... As a final note, I do accnowledge that a mellee fighter trying to survive in Cantha, where he'll be suspect to a lot of exploding afflicted, is probably the hardest way to do this.

Mar 28, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16	#18
Clerihew Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: At the bar Guild: Dragons of Ice and Flame [Ice] Profession: Mo/	Go skill capping. Choose the easiest and keep changing your secondary profession for access to a wide range. Boring but if you are too scared to play it through thenyou can earn a fair amount of xp this way.